I have been, for some time, an avid Mountain Hardware fan. The fit, quality, workmanship, and most important to me, the durability of their products keep me coming back. I've tried other brands, and most deliver what they say, but in my experience these pants over deliver. Climbing, making the long stretch, and these bad boys feel more like a second skin rather than a pair of fleece pants. Windproof, and adjustable, they regulate body temp and give me plenty of adjustability. If you're considering a pair of these, just get them, as soon as you put them on you'll know. See you out there ;-)Moosejaw, great service and follow up. I do like your style!!!