"Great all around shoe for indoor and outdoor single pitch"
I've had this shoe for just about two years now. It's been through lots of gym climbing as well as a few lengthy trips on Limestone and Sandstone (Thailand and RRG). My street shoe size is a 9.5, and I wear an 8.5 bandit.This shoe is great for those just getting into climbing, or looking for a lower cost shoe that is good for a variety of uses. The stretch over time is minimal, and the rubber holds up very well. I've just worn through the toes after about 12 months gym use(twice a week), and probably 30 days on real rock. The shoe is relatively flexible, so it smears decently, while also having a rigid enough forefoot to stand up on most small edges. I've spent most of my time on overhanging limestone and sandstone so I can't attest to how well it does on granite or cracks. The toe box is a bit too snug for my feet, it leaves a large indent on the top of my big toes, so I can't comfortable wear it for more than 2-3 pitches without taking them off. Great for gym or all-around use.