I ordered these for my son after he ripped another pair while fetching a "mommy drink" for me. (Sad but true. Hence the guilt.) This is our first experience with Mountain Khakis, so he tried a pair at a local store before we ordered from Moosejaw. My son normally wears size 34 waist, 34 length in pants but took a size 36 waist, 34 length in the Flannel-Lined Original Mountain Pants. Not sure how the unlined pants run but suggest you order a size up in the lined option. BTW - I had these drop-shipped to him at college, so I haven't seen him in them. When I sent him a text to ask if they had been received (because that's how we "talk"), his words to me were "They are amazing. I love them." 'Nuff said. Will order again in other colors.
Pants are true to size with NO forgiveness (compared to some pants made by others with slight forgiveness or ability to stretch). Even with a relaxed cut/fit, concern of how they would change after washing made me decide to return and look for a bigger waist size. These are 100% cotton. Another post mentioned how tight they are in the waist and I have found the same. Gents who buy, wear, and fit the full/relaxed sizes, due to an athletic build.... be aware. Great pant and looking forward to a larger size. Seem like a durable pant that would stand up to outdoor work and play.
"Got to have a pair when it's frigid outside"
Really comfortable and warm with a tough as nails exterior. Good for pounding the pavement during short Great Lakes winter days/long winter nights. Transition well indoors to work. I'd snowshoe or do winter trekking with a thick baselayer and windproof, waterproof shell, but these pants could probably take the abuse--just wouldn't dry out quickly.
Nicely made pants, wish they were made in the US though. Just a heads up, I wear a size 34 waist, when I received the pants I wasn't able to even button them. I am going to order two sizes up and hope that does the trick.
The good thing is that the liner isn't cotton they would be good for outdoors/camping activities. It's about the only one i've found that is fleece. Also, the outer shell is pretty durable (but still cotton so beware if you're a cotton phobe) These pants are comfortable but very loose fitting like most lined pants. As a thinner guy I really don't like the fit much. I do think that they are more comfortable and better looking than the llbean pants so if it's a choice between the two then get these. You can't go wrong with MK.
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