You ever have a pair of gloves (shells and liners) where the inner of the shell pulls out when you pull the liner out? I had a par of gloves like that and I swear it almost cost me a finger or two... can't deal with that kind of stuff in the mountains. These gloves, on the other hand, are well put together, fit well, and just work. I wear them throughout the winter skiing and ice climbing and in the spring on mountaineering trips. My fingers tend to get cold, so your mileage may vary, but I've found these to be comfortable to around 15 degrees with little activity or much colder if you're working hard. Don't let the "OutDry" fool you though, you'll still want to waterproof these thoroughly. My only issue with these gloves is that the stock liners are thin and cheap; I replaced mine when they wore out with MH Heavyweight Wool Stretch Gloves and that's a fantastic combination.