FEATURES of the Montane Men's Deep Cold Down Jacket
PERTEX® Endurance Mini Rip-stop outer fabric providing exceptional weather resistance
PERTEX® Endurance Rip-stop reinforcement on the shoulders, hips, rear panel and forearms
400g of minimum 90/10 high quality goose down at 800+ fill power throughout
Slightly larger in the chest and arms: sized for winter layering
Longer in the body for extra coverage across tops of thighs
Articulated elbows to maximise arm reach and minimise lower hem lift
Removable hood with YKK zip and press studs to secure whilst worn
High collar that shields face and provides storm protection with fine microfleece inner and secure hook and loop fastening
Two Napoleon chest pockets with YKK zips and full hook and loop storm baffle
Two hand pockets with fine microfleece lining for extra warmth and comfort protected by a storm baffle and YKK zips
Two insulated and bellowed front expedition gear pockets with hook and loop closure, for gloves and essentials
Fine microfleece on inner collar facings next to mouth, chin and rear neck
Internal ‘sleeping bag’ type neck baffle with fine microfleece outer and lower rear neck panel
Internal waist adjustment through fine microfleece drawcord channel
Fully adjustable lower hem to prevent heat loss and weather entry
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Mountaineering and Alpine, Expedition
Rated 5 out of
WARM! Should be called Deep Space Down!Protects Like a Space Suit! It should be called Deep Space Down.
I’m 5’8” tall, 155lbs heavy and I wear 38R suits/Medium coats but I had to size down to a SMALL in the Deep Cold Down to get a proper fit. Even still the size small is cavernous enough in the chest and arms to layer lots of clothing underneath. The trick is even though it is a big lofty warm coat it wears easy and feels very light-weight on your back.
With 400 grams of 800 fill quality responsibly sourced down supplemented by 40 grams of Primaloft you will never need to layer more than a base and mid layer underneath to keep warm in any type of weather inside the orbit of Pluto.
There is so much good to say about the Deep Cold Down so to keep it concise I will do a simple PRO and CON list below. I’ve singled out aspects of this coat that sets it apart from other expedition down coats although overall everything works well on the Deep Cold. My opinions are also based on previous coats I’ve owned (including the TNF Gore Dryloft Himalayan & Baltoro, Patagonia Hooded Fitz Roy, Rab Neutrino Endurance, Berghaus Ulvetanna and most recently the Mammut Eigerjoch-that I returned to buy this).
-Warm to Weight Ratio – Compared to heavy burdensome coats like the TNF Himalayans this coat is just as warm, if not warmer, but also the lightest I’ve worn in this category. Using 800 fill/Primaloft combo for the fill with various degrees of Pertex Endurance fabrics about the coat does the trick here. Also having a removable hood and an ingenious substitute for a traditional heavy snow skirt/gaiter helps shed the weight. The Mammut Eigerjoch is the closest to this in terms of warmth to wear-weight ratio but the Deep Cold Down wins out because it has a lot more features.
-Removable Expedition Hood – This coat has one of the best hoods I’ve ever experienced. It has EVERY positive (warm, waterproof, helmet friendly, full face and head coverage, easy on-off, tucks away when not used, wired brim, 3 way cinch system) that a hood could have with the addition of it being removable. So when not needed you can leave it at home. The hood connects with a sealing zipper that is flanked by mini storm flaps so that when connected it protects like a normal non-removable hood.
Tall Sleeping-Bag-Style Baffle Cinching Fleece Lined Collar- This coat has a down filled baffle collar that wraps around your neck when the coat is zipped up so heat is sealed in and cold is locked out. The only other coat that I’ve seen with this was my 1995-era TNF Himalayan Dry Loft Heat-Radiant Lined coat. Not many commercially available expedition down coats today have this feature since having an non-removable hood in addition to the baffle collar can make for a heavier jacket. Also a good hood can do the work of a baffle collar but a hoodless coat would benefit from the baffle. So this double feature makes the Deep Cold Down dynamic with the choices of how you can wear it. The top of the collar also has a cinch toggle that can allow the collar to hug your neck
Internal Bungee Cinch – In place of the traditional snow skirt/heat retention gaiter the deep down uses a bungee cinch toggle that runs along the waist at the back (not the front). When cinched the jacket hugs your torso and hips to effectively seal in heat and keeps out cold and snow. It’s ingenious because it work well and also allows the jacket to be field-tailored for a snug or a loose fit. You could let out the cinch to allow for layering or cinch it up for a more tailored slim fit. It also makes for a much lighter jacket when compared to coats that have snow skirts.
Sleeves – They are articulated sleeves that are tailored to be loose and long for the size. At first I was thinking they were too big but when the temps drop I realized I can pull the cuffs down over my ungloved-hands for extra warmth. Also not having wrist gaiters is not an issue since the entire cuff can fit over the tips of your finger when not cinched.
Belay Zipper – The Deep Cold Down gets praise for using this long forgotten useful feature that most commercially sold expedition down coats no longer have.
Full Torso Coverage to Mid-Thigh – The Deep Cold Down can be un-cinched at the hem and worn Parka style for more coverage. Your upper legs and hips are well covered. If you don’t need the extra length then the dual side hem cinches will shorten the coat.
Exterior Pockets Galore – All the pockets are well placed and all the pockets are down-filled hand warmer pockets with either Velcro closure (lower bellow pockets) zip closure (side hand pockets) or both Velcro and zippered (napoleon chest pockets). All pockets have mini storm baffle flaps to keep the pocket warm if left unzipped or open. Montane puts down on both sides of the pockets as well. Most coats, worse offender being my Rab Neutrino Endurance, has a thin sheet of nylon between your body and the pocket. So when the pockets are left open cold gets inside the jacket behind the down baffles. On the Deep Cold Down there is down filling on both sides so an open pocket does not let cold in and a closed pocket is extra warmth. Also with the redundant Velcro closures it is nearly impossible to leave a pocket open.
CONS (nothing substantial for me but if you need to nitpick):
A lot of Velcro – This coat has Velcro on almost every pocket. It also has Velcro along every inch of the main zipper storm baffle , on the cuffs and all over the hood. If you are a fan of Velcro then you will love that it makes using the coat (closing the flaps and pocket as well as throwing on the hood) easy and quick compared to using tiny snaps and buttons. Everyone else will find the Velcro to be loud (until you get used to it) and distracting.
Smaller than average internal mesh pockets – Of all the coats in this category this one has the smallest internal mesh pockets I’ve ever seen. At best a 16 ounce Poland Spring water bottle will fit in the bigger of the two pockets. You won’t get an expedition-sized 32 Oz Nalgene bottle or expedition mitts/glove in there. The smaller mesh pocked is zippered but only big enough for lip balm and keys. in 2016 mountaineers use the hydration pouches and the Deep Down does have D-rings on the sleeves for hooking mitts/gloves to.
Cheap Looking Stitching around bellow pockets and cuffs- It is probably just me but I’ve always found Montane’s stitching to look cheap and loose even though it is durable and I’ve never had an issue with premature failure. My Montane Krypton Jacket from 5 years ago came out the wrapping with what looked like loose threads and cheap stitching but never gave me any issues after many years of hard use. So it is just the way it looks.
No Stuff Stack- This is the first coat like this I purchase to not come with one. I guess Montane assumes if you are already in this field of adventure where you need a Deep Down then you likely already have a stuff sack.
Strictly A Base Camp/Belay/Summit Coat – Unless you are doing the final summit at Everest you do not want to do anything strenuous with this coat on. It does not ventilate well. Usually you can open pockets to vent a down coat but here the pockets are all Velcro closing and double lined with down. The only ventilation option is wearing the coat unzipped with the hood removed(or tucked back) and collar open and cinched back away from your neck. Also pack ability is not great on this coat compared to other coats that stuff into their hoods or mini-stuff sacks or pockets. Here you would likely use a small sized sleeping bag stuff sack that compresses or carry it at the top of your summit pack.
Availability – This coat is nearly impossible to find in the USA and with Brexit a lot of online UK retailer companies have begun to cease shipping products to the USA. If you do want it then any amount of searching will be worth it in the end and any price you pay will not be bad.
This is a great coat at the end of the day. Apart from all the things I pointed out it is easy to wear and light on your back while providing the best warmth and weather protection anywhere your feet can take you on this green earth!