Based on the other review I ordered 2 sizes up and got a 12 (im normally between an 8 or a 10). I just recieved the pants, and I am swimming in them. I'll return them for an 8.The fabric is the same great G1000 fabric used in all the fjall raven clothes. I have one of their jackets, and its indestructable.I love the color (dark gray), and the super long inseam. They are straightleg pants, so I think will look good off the trail as well. Looking forward to getting a smaller size!
"Very thin material for the price, and approximately 2 sizes too small."
These look very tough in the ads, but I ordered them expecting they'd withstand some pretty active rock climbing. The fabric was simply thin cotton that would rip on the first sharp rock. Very expensive for the quality. Also, the size conversion says to subtract 28 from the size, in my case being a 38 or a size 10. Now I know us Americans eat too much and are probably fatter than the rest of the world but, I couldn't even get these up!! Quality just isn't there....sorry charlie!!